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employment. that's what she was after. so how did you make that happen? >> i tried to make the best of my internship to try to get in as much experience as i can and then i left a note, i wanted to work here. >> reporter: it worked. >> it worked. >> reporter: she interned at ogilvy three years ago and she's never left. tom foreman, cnn, walk. >> that does it for us. thanks for watching. the next hour starts now. >> up next the dow had its worst day of the year, plummeting 353 points. tell plary for the beginning of a major plunge. then the taliban opting to release the only american of war in exchange for five gitmo detainees. will president obama make a deal an negotiate with terrorists? plus it appears, james gandolfini died of a heart attack. could his death have been prevented? many of us are at risk that
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don't know it. ♪ good evening, everyone, i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, we begin with breaking news, stocks plunge, wall street suffering its worst day of the year t. dow down 353 points. if you look at the two-day drop. this is a real jaw opener. it's 50 points, that's 4% in two days. that's a significant plunge. the reason for it is fore. fear the easy money ben bernanke has been plowing into the economy to prop it up to prevent a depression is going to start drying up. peter kenny is the chief market strategist at knight capital group. i guess the question is two days nearly 4%. makes people afraid. and it should make people afraid t. question is, is this temporary or something that could get worse and worse? >> it's a real wake-up call. i do think this is a short-term trend. given that, we are in a period
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of volatility since chairman bernanke did mention tapering back in may, which is where we had our highs. >> which means i will stop giving you this free market. >> meaning we have seen the most volatility all year. sideways to lower, the last two days significantly lower. there is probably some work to do on the downside in the near term. this is something that's needed. a pullback is needed. we need to get back to more compelling evaluations in the index stocks generally speaking. so it's not as if this is completely destructive. it's a question of a longer period of trend. >> it's pruning. >> that's a great example. >> when you look at five years ago when this whole, they call it quantitative ease, basically, this free money he has been throwing into the economy to start it. every time he said maybe i'm going to stop, stocks tankled. you see qe 1, that's the first bout of money, ben bernanke was going to stop t. second time
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around they fell 18%. so in a sense we have been through this before. this time it could be different because every other time he gave in when the markets started plunging and give people more money. this time he might say, hey, forget it. >> right. at this time there the a different narrative. the economic data he has used as a way of justifying quantitative easing has improved very dramatically. the economy is getting substantially better. whether it's housing, financials. gdp, employment numbers. the trends are positive. as a direct result, it's more difficult for chairman bernanke to justify mover stimulus. >> so a stronger economy may be better for all of us. >> exactly. >> it may be bad for some wealthy people on wall street. that's. okay. all right. thank you very much. i appreciate your time as always, good to see you, peter. our other top story is negotiating with terrorists. the taliban is offering to exchange the only known american prisoner of war in afghanistan.
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sergeant bill bergdorf. one person for five people. previous talks stalled back in 2012. i want to keep in mine here, the taliban is classified by the united states as a quote/unquote specially designated global terrorist entity. many american officials have long maintained the united states does not negotiate with terrorists. the obama negotiation says peace talks between the u.s. and taliban will likely be held in the next few days. they expect the prisoner exchange to be on the table. so will the president make a deal? barbara starr is at the pentagon. when you think about this, this is a big moment for this country and a big decision. how likely is it that this prisoner exchange will happen in this negotiation? >> well, i don't think are you likely any time soon to see a direct prisoner exchange, erin. the u.s. has a policy. we don't negotiate with terrorists. except, of course, that is how wars end. you go to the negotiating table. that's how you end an insurgency
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like afghanistan. that's why they are sitting down, talking to the taliban. the u.s. wants bergdorf back. the taliban want their guys back and they want some measure of control somewhere in haul of this. so there will be discussions. you might not call them negotiations, the u.s. needs to get bergdahl back with the u.s. leaving afghanistan at the end of next year, there's not going to be a lot of ability to physical out where he is and how to get him back if this doesn't work. erin. >> of course, i know it's a great point of frustration for the u.s. and perceived failure by many they are negotiating with the taliban not some other government entity. they hoped it would be over and no longer in existence. obviously, things have not panned out the way we expected. barbara, it's been a long time what are the circumstances of his capture? >> this is the thing still after all this time that is so murky. of course, we will never know until sergeant bergdahl can
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speak up for himself and say what exactly happened. we know a couple publications published e-mails where it was said that bergdahl wrote to his parents, said he was disillusioned with the war, clearly didn't enjoy, didn't like being a part of military life and for some reason, four years ago, he walked away from his base in afghanistan. that has been the working theory all along and he was very quickly kidnapped, picked up by insurgents. we don't know two he was in communication with that might have led him to walk away. that's what they think happened. but they have to wait and talk to him. erin. >> barrastar, thank you. now a front, cnn contributor and former white house press secretary for president bush ari fleischer and cia operatetive bab bear. the taliban said, look, this prison exchange is the first step in peace talks between the
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tal been and the occupation. let me ask you point blank, should the president be negotiating with a global terrorist entity? have we do need to talk to the taliban in the withdrawal process of bringing the afghani society t. governing estate is afghanistan's government. it's a bit of a different issue talking to them, yes, a direct exchange over hostages of our hostage, a serviceman in return for five prisoners at guantonomo, no. not as a direct matter. there are other ways to accomplish these things. it become as part of the murky, tricky diplomatic world with live in. as a direct overt exchange, no. >> the democratic senator robert menendez told the hill. i want to quote him, i personally don't think we negotiate unthese lines. for me, it wouldn't be acceptable. do you think this could be acceptable? i understand ari's point, murky,
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negotiating, whatever words you put around it, should it hatch? >> well, i rin, i think we have to look at it this way, the taliban is not defeated. it's very much alive ensurgency. they owe owe insurgency. they will be playing a role if kabul when we leave. i think the earlier we talk with them over issues or prisoners the better. the government, i give it six months to last the karzai government. we have to deal with the facts on the ground and, you know, they're coming. we're going to be turning over large parts of the taliban. let's talk to them. >> i guess for other people watching, this has to be this shock, this frustration, after more than a decade of war, the united states is saying they will be negotiating doing business with, making dolsi with, again -- making deals with, again, not just the taliban a group designated the global terrorist entity. >> we are on chart here.
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we have never had a far in a stateless state as the taliban. they were toppled because the united states launched with a northern alliance. now the karzai government t. karzai government is weak. the taliban have some elements of control in certain parts of the country and we have on interest as the united states in withdrawing to what will hopefully be afghanistan doesn't create more terrorism with the united states. that's why there will be talks with the united states congress and the american people can support. you have to be careful about how direct and what we offer the taliban in these talks. and we can't undermine the delicately elected afghan if i government -- afghani government. it's a murky deal with terrorists who have some level of control on the ground. none of this is a straight line. none of this is easy. >> we appreciate your time. everyone, let us know what you think should happen in this case. whether the u.s. should make a
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deal for a soldier for five guantonomo detainees. still to come, james gandolfini appears to have died from a major heart attack. with le have a surgeon if his death could have been prevented. a woman who survived a deadly machine gun assault speaks out and shows the pictures. then foreman joe torre's daughter, she saves a child in a life and death moment. an update on a story we brought to you four months ago, a woman's body was found in the water tank on top of the hotel. tonight, authorities say they know how she got there. the great outdoors... ...and a great deal. thanks to dad. (gasp) nope.
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>> this guy looks like he's up to no good. >> did you hear gunshots? >> yes. >> our sec story out front, what killed james gandolfini. as we await the autopsy results on the 51-year-old actor.
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we understand on the information we have, he died of a heart attack vacationing in rome after dinner. it is still not known whether he had a history of heart problems or anything we are aware of t. truth is a lot of people don't experience signs at all. a third of men never have chest pain. of course, a lot of people who do don't recognize it for what it is. all right. i'm so glad to talk to you. i just think everyone watching has had some personal experience and these heart attacks so often steal someone from you when you have no preparation for it. people who are eating dinner right now, how do you know how concerned they should be about their rick? i understand we have now mr. gandolfini had dinner, went home to the hotel. >> i don't think that did or did it. it's the dinners beforehand that probably did it and it takes years. it's not just you eat a steak,
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it stops up your vessels. it probably started. if highway had that, i don't know. but it probably started when he was 20. >> that builds up. what causes that, it to snap? >> well, ordinarily, what happens if that's what he had, is you have a narrowing in the vessel, sort of like a rusty pipe gets stopped up. we've got fancy names for it. we call it corn 94 atherosclerosis. it's essentially that. a clot will a lot of times develop right on it. blocks the vessel. after that, there is no blood supply to the muscle this was subten sub tendon. >> so he was 56-years-old, we think of other people, tim russert, another person that seems so young. but most people who have heart disease are older. 85% from our understanding over 65. for men, the average age for a heart attack is 66.
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how common is it for someone who is younger to have heart attacks? is. >> it is going on. i think we made inroads into this 30, 40 years ago t. mean age of men being operated was 52. the mean age of women is 56. the mean age now of the women, men are 79, women are 81. so we've slowed it down. we haven't eliminated it. >> right. gandolfini's ex-wife in papers to a divorce filing had mentioned he had serious issues with drugs and alcohol. obviously, we don't know if that's true. how much of a role do those things play, does alcohol play? >> well, i think, you hear conflicting reports and data if you have two or three drinks a day, have you less coronary disease, if you have two glasses of wine, you don't have coronary disease. if you drink a lot, no matter
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what, it's hard to eat properly and not campaign weight. if you are eating a lot and eating properly, you will gain weight. >> it's the wapeight gain. david letterman, none of the people you operate on are stout people. regis philbin is stout all the time. i want to play what they say. >> i a heart attack in february. i was smoke on the way to the hospital. >> did you know you were having a heart attack? >> no. >> i had been feeling chest pain, you know, and a shortness of breath, all those little symptoms that you hear about. so i called the doctor and decided to take some tests and it was their conclusion that i should have a bipass. >> i went in there for an angiogram. they said, well, are you not going anywhere. are you pretty badly blocked. >> these people are all thin.
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a lot of people think you have to be overweight like james gandolfini. because are you thin, can you have this? >> two things, they all had a history of smoking, pretty heavily at one time. actually, david had stopped several years before, but i think you pay a price and his was cigars. and the other rick factor is a family history. >> right. >> larry's father dropped dead at age in his early 40s. he went to work, didn't come back. david's father i think had some coronary disease. i don't recall about regis. >> you got to look at your family. >> genetics, too. >> genetics matter. >> the big question is did you have a mother or daddy or a brother or sister whose had coronary disease? >> the we appreciate you taking your time. it makes people afraid, some people go to work and never come home. our third story out front, a
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hit job caught on camera. so today in the trial of mob boss whitey biology -- bolg er. the attack are you looking at. you see the windows totally shot out by a machine gun. the driver of the mercedes that she was in was killed. the multiple gunshot wounds on the attack of that car left her boyfriend hospitalized until he died in 2001. bolger is on trial for 19 murders. milton valencia has been in the courtroom listening to what's happening. when we look at those pictures, it takes us out of the realm of television into the realm of reality. there were people in that car. it was a horrific murder. how did she describe what happened? >> i think really show brought this trial to reality. she told me later she didn't want people to think this was a circus or joke, that people
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needed to realize that incident people are being killed. she really brought this reality the sense of humanity into the courtroom for the first time. we've heard of the hit man john marano who slaughtered 20 people. we heard, including from her, a direct testimony from those people who are affected by this and it was so emotional it literally had two jurors in tears. the courtroom was agast. i was agast. people really we all know james bolger the myth. we rarely saw his victims today in the courtroom. >> when you talked about the jurors in tears, it obviously says so much, he was there, he was in the courtroom. he was listening. jurors are in tears. you say you were emotionally affected. what did he do? how did he respoened? >> he was solemn, staring forward as he always has been. he tends to, some of the book makers who he allegedly started in the past, he tries to stare
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them down. he's looked out into the crowd before. when he has certain people on the stand he doesn't want to pay attention to or can't pay attention to, i'm not sure, he stares forward. we didn't see any emotion from him that we saw from others in the courtroom. we had two jurors crying, victims' families in the courtroom having to look away when the photos are shown. >> they are looking at photos that remievend them of wounds that are deep and have been there a long time. i know you wrote an article the 75 of that 1973 shooting. the woman testified, said she was on the fence, she wasn't sure she wanted to testify. she decided to because she was looking at the testimony of his former associates. it seemed so cold, she wanted to put the victim's face on it. she said, i'll quote her. i realized after reading the way the press was covering it all, i realized it was a three ring circus for the bad guys. somebody's got to say it's not
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an innocent joke. >> bolger has been long associated with this story. his own cohort, his lawyers pointed out she could not name him as being there. there has been a lot of history here, a lot of testimony. she brought it to the personal level, that reality level. >> still to come, jury selection for the george zimmerman trial is finished. hundreds of government workers, hundreds, including edward snowden passed their background checks with the help of an outside company. it gets more sordid than that. and a woman whose body was found on the top of a hotel four months ago we reported on, police now know how it got there. all business purchases.
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>> welcome back to the second half of "out front." we report from the front lines. we want to begin to learn the cause of a fire explosion that killed two people today.
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black smoke emerged from the building. thick smoke. it's near montreal. it was so severe residents had to be evacuated neighbor. they don't know whether it consumed professional fireworks. julie hackman of the american pyrotechnics association says that could affect the type of fire that ensues. now an update on the story of a young woman found in a los angeles hotel water tank earlier this year. the lieutenant tells us the death of the 21-year-old canadian tourist has been ruled an accident due to drowning. we reported in february it wasn't until a meant nance worker was looking into complaints about the hotel's water, her decomposing water was found. they suggested her bipolar disorder was a factor. a terrifying sight, apparently a baby crawled out
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onto the window and new york fire escape and freefalled. would be the end of the baby? luckily one person watching in disbelief was christina torre, a school teacher and the daughter of the new york yankee's manager, joe. she caught and saved the 1-year-old. here she describes the moment he baunsd off the oning into her arms. >> honestly, i did not feel his weight. it was effort liless. i was very surprised. he felt as light as a feather. i just, you know, it was easy to hold him and again i just think i kicked into gear and whatever forces behind me made sure i did what needed to be done. >> wow. talk about the catch of her life. the parents of the baby, meanwhile, are expected to be charged with child endangerment. it has been 686 days since the u.s. lost its home credit rating. what are we doing about it? the national association of
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realtor's chief economist is nervous another housing bubble is brewing. he says prices are going up too fast and home building isn't balancing to keep things balanced. after nine days of questioning, an all female jury has been selected for the george zimmerman trial. the prosecutors described the six person jury. you have five wlim women who are white, one black and hispanic the total of six. of the alternates two, are men, two are women. all of the alternates are white. the racial makeup everyone said is crucial because the case sparked a national debate on racial profiling. zimmerman admitted to shooting trayvon martin last year. zimmerman who is hispanic says he shot a black teen in self-defense. out front tonight, wall callen, legal analysts and let me get straight to this issue. on two levels, i can't wait to
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see what you think. first of all, everybody is white, almost everybody is white and the lack of gender diversity. let's start with gender diversity. on the main jury, we got all women. >> for me, it's numpblt when i prosecuted case i never had occasion of an all female jury. i think it will be interesting for this case. clearly, women don't leave their gender at the door of the jury room. they take all of their propensities. i have found, female jurors are very cooperative. there is a lot of give and take in the discussion. so i think that's going to be crucial for a case like this that has to involve that kind of discussion. i also think what's fascinating about it is that five of the six women are mothers. and this is, the victim is a teen ager, a child. i suspect that that will also take be a part of her discussion in the jury room. i don't know if paul agrees with me or not. i think female jurors are partial and very sense 75 when
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the victim is a child. >> so what does that mean, i'm association i don't tow where you are leading me here. >> it leads to a couple interesting things. the first thing is we're not allowed to knock people off a jury because of tear gender. it's unconstitutional. what's the first question we raise? >> you find other ways. >> what about an all women jury? we find that women are kind of hard to predict. i'll tell you something, i was running this by. >> only a man can say. >> i ran this by three prosecutors today, they're all men. they all said women, when we have all women juries, we're terrified because they're much less predictable than male juries. that was the male stereotype on this. my take on it, by the way, when i look at occupations and other factorsment three of the women have guns in the family. they have permits, family friends who have guns also, you
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know, they have kids. >> yes. >> will it help one side or the other? the final thing on the racial question. >> i want to ask about that. what about the fact you have one black and a hispanic woman. five white and on the alternatesing everybody is white. >> sure. we have been looking at the case through racial lens since it first broke. i think there are caucasians probably will go in zimmerman's corner. i say that because i think that african-americans when they see trayvon martin, they see their own child. i think they would come into the case having more of a sympathy saying he was stereo typed and killed because he was dressing like another normal black kid. i'm not so sure caucasian mothers will say the same thing. they may. time will tell. >> do you think there is any merit to that? >> i certainly think, i reject the notion a white female juror
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cannot sympathize with a black teen ager. i reject that notion. i think that regardless of race, these jurors will be able to listen to the evidence and go back into that jury room and in a collaborative way come up with a verdict. >> i agree with that as well. in the end, they element but i do think they're going to work, the defense is going to work this idea that the white jurors are going to say, wow, he had a hoodie on, he was dressed like a gangster, zimmerman must have been afraid. they will get more mileage with a caucasian jury. it would be rejected by an african-american jury. >> fascinating. >> i think it makes it even more complicated. looking at the human mind. >> opening statements on monday. >> we will obviously be talking to you then. and a private company has been caught fudging background checks for hundreds of government workers. this may be a story that falls in the category of shocking, not surprising. including former nsa contractor edward snowden. many of the employees in
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question, including snowden, had access to national security intelligence. a senate hearing was held to determine how does widespread fraud that could have impacted the safety of this country has gone unnoticed so long? >> reporter: a congressional hearing produced a stunning admission. a private contracting firm may not have done a thorough back ground check on admitted leaker edward snowden. >> are there any concerns that mr. snowden's background may not have been carried out in an appropriate manner? >> yes, we do believe there may be some problems. >> reporter: the company in question is now under investigation for repeatedly failing to conduct quality background checks. >> do you believe are you catching most of the fraud, mr. mcfarland or do you think there may be more? >> i think there may be considerably more.
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>> reporter: alarming when you consider 18 were found in a fake background checks. one faked 16 credit checks she never completed. even worse, her own background check to get her job had been faked by another investigator, someone convicted in a separate case. the inspector general calls it -- >> a declared threat to national security. if a back ground investigation is not conducted properly, all other steps on issuing a security clearance are called into question. >> reporter: former defense department official john ham write filled out a form to reveal his top se secret clearance. what shocked him was the investigator spent the most basic questions. >> is your wife really julie? did you go to school at augustana college, did you live at this address? they read the form, i simply
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said it was true. >> reporter: he says with the personal information available online, a computer could do the same back ground check for $100. >> instead, we are spending $4,000 to have people conduct rather -- conduct investigations that aren't revealing anything. >> it's amazing when you hear that. like i said, in the category of shocking, but not surprising. truly shocking. what is the root of the prorks a funding problem, a staffing problem or something else? >> it depends who you listen to, erin. the defense says their resources are woefully inadequate and they don't have enough to do a program this important requires. but bottom line, this is a billion dollar a year program that has never had an audit. john hamry says it's more about the procedures. he says, computers could do about 90% of this work and the money saved could be freed up to let the people go out in the field and do the deep personal
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digging that the computers can't do. that would lead to much more federal investigations. >> thank you very much, chris lawrence, unbelievable. still to come, paula dean is in hot water over racist comments she made years ago. here's the problem, isolated incident? is there any tolerance? the rest of the world thinks americans are a bunch of -- it's france that could help us. on ex. . rd conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. ready to plan for your future? we'll help you get there. we know it's your videoconference of the day.
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outer circle where we reach out to our sources around the world. tonight we go to china the government is eager to flex its muscles in space. the time an astronaut teaches a physics lesson from a space model. i asked why this was such a big idea for china? >> reporter: another first in space, teaching 66 million chinese school children in their classrooms about gravity, about surface tension of water and space and gyroscopics in space, how you weigh things in space. all designed to energize these young children to think about space, think about science in the future and encourage the people in china to support this costly space mission. this is just one of many such china planning a bigger space
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station in the future, still lagging behind the occupation, lagging behind russia in their space developments and, of course, wanting to catch up. they carry the dream the space dreams of the nation the chinese president had told them, erin. >> thank you very much. this story out front, paula dean cooks up a mess. the celebrity kev famous for her southern cooking is in hot water after using racial slurs in a deposition last month. dean is being sued by the former manager of a georgia restaurant. lisa jackson claims dean not only used the n-word on several occasions but wanted to have a quote/unquote true widding with an all black wait staff. this has one of her biggest backers starting to distance itself from the chef t. statement the food neighboring which airs three of dean's shows says it does not tolerate any form of discrimination and is a strong proponent of diversity
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and inclusion. it will continue to monitor the situation. comedienne stefanie miller and okay, great to see you all. stefanie, doon's camp released a statement saying she doesn't find it acceptable to use the n-word. quote, she was speaking largely about a time in american history different from today. i don't know what she meant, what you know, should the food network wait or terminate her? >> i think this is a little bit too big of a pr problem to get back from. i don't know if you were on twitter yesterday, but it exploded with people renaming all of paula dean's dishes racist names, et cetera, for someone that doesn't toll right the use of the n-word, she tolerated it quite a bit. i think hiroshima tap dancing little n-words for her brother's wedding or something like that. literally, when i read this on the air, he co-host had the spring time for hitler faces.
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it is beyond outrageously outrageous sample we don't have all the facts here. we know what we know. she claimed she used the n-word, stopped using it after the 1980s people change. she's a public figure, if she ever used it at, should she have a high profile case, should they wait? >> her words of despicable. i'm not defending her words, let's not have a knee-jerk reaction, she should be fired toot. let's have the facts come out t. beauty will. others will come forward, perhaps and say she used it more recently t. last time she used it was 30 years ago. people can evolve. i think people could evolve. you shouldn't be sentenced from sins 30 years ago. if anyone comes forward, more people say a week ago, a year ago, no one else, you have to sit and wait. >> let me ask you, though, about the other thing we said, though
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the lawsuit mentions, again, this is from an employee suing her for some sort of harassment, discrimination. that's who is making this allegation. she says dean wanted to organize a true southern wedding wearing white shirts, black pants. she's alleged to have said, you know in the shirley temple days they used to tap dance around. the party allegedly never took place, dean saying in the 1980s, using the n-word, this is 2007, does that change anything? zplits a he said-she said situation. makes me nervous. i think stefanie's point early on, one thing to keep in mind the folks, the hipsters on twitter, making fun of her, those aren't her core audience. she doesn't necessarily have to worry about that. but i think that, you know, there are generational issues here. i think it is a real concern. it will impact her audience eventually t. reason i would want to fire her, erin, is her
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use of sugar and carbohydrates, which i think is crazy. i think she is killing people. i think it's very dangerous. i am very torn about this. actually, give her the benefit of the doubt, who knows, let's see if anyone else comes forward, on the other hand, these foods are poison. she's killed more people tan al qaeda in the last few years. >> careful. >> we got a final word to you, stefanie, though, if she came out and said i want to explain to you what my version of what happened, here's why i'm so sorry, a true heart felt in-depth explanation would you feel differently? in there perhaps. my colleague dr. laura learned this the wrong way. you can say it as many times you want. people have a right to decide how they feel about that. i love she is more concerned about the white sugar than the words for black people. that's okay. i understand. >> we have to leave it there. i will promise.
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ron will get the lost word tomorrow night, fair? all right. thanks to all of you. every night we take a look outside at today's top stories on outtake. paris, famous for everything wonderful, people living on the streets, restaurants, church itself, wine, one of the most visited cities with 29 million tourists going there every year. all of this despite the fact people in paris have a rep takes for being shall i say a bit tacit. they are troying to change. local tourist officials are changing the greetings, spending habits from people around the world. they are giving it to taxi drivers, waiters, hotel managers across the city, trying to reform themselves, you got to give them credit here. it's not just the french, in 2008 the chinese government began a campaign to help its citizens behave better, too, trying to teach them to refrain from spitting, cutting in line, littering and clearing throats too loudly so as not to anow
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tourists. it was an effective idea. a chinese american was in china, a woman cut in line saying i need to mind my manners. it seems it was working. maybe it's time the usa copy france and china, as much as they speak about the hosts they speak volumes of the guests t. four things american tourists are if need of are, quick service, constant attention, re-assurance when it comes to price and fluency in english. basically, the united states, are impatient, meaning cheap an unwilling to learn another language. you think the french are rude? as important as it is to be a good host, it is important to be a good guest, for us to remember on vacation or welcome visitors, including this ones here at home. still to come, an award idea and what america's broken health system can learn from him. every day we're working to be an even better company -
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>> nobel peace priesz prize winner is the founder of the bangladesh that won the 2006 peace prize for reducing poverty. tonight e-has a new idea that can fix something that isn't fixable. the american health care system. moemtd unis thinks america should be more like bangladesh. >> the u.s. system is not a functioning health care system him one of the thing we did in bangladesh because of the frustrations they have gone to, we paid into our own system. >> we have our dream world. >> reporter: amazingly, many bang loo deborahis live on less than $200 a day. unicef has shown it's possible to provide basic health care. >> we cover everything, the building, the equipment, everything is covered. >> reporter:? bangladesh the cost is about $3
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per person per 84 compared to $8,680 per person per year in the u.s. the magic formula? he says the clinics are able to recover 93% of their costs by selling very inexpensive insurance policies and then asking patients to pay a very small fee at the point of service. they also sell pharmaceuticals and diagnostic services, he is now testing his idea in america. how do you make that work? i know you are explaining it, it sounds perfect. $3 a year, that's nothing. >> forget about the $3 part. because if bangladesh, it makes lots of sense. here it doesn't make that much sense. >> what would be equivalent here. generally. >> in new york city, we are asking for $10 per week. >> $10 per week. >> per person. then all the family health care is there, insurance, once we develop that system. >> for that $10 a week the
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clinic in america will have health coaches, nurse practitioners in, a social workers and one doctor on staff. if it works, it's an idea many americans will likely welcome. >> the idea is to bring health care to people. the idea is to keep people happy and healthy. so that they are healthy. >> piers morgan starts right now. tylenol works by blocking pain signals to your brain bayer back & body's dual action formula includes aspirin, which blocks pain at the site. try the power of bayer back & body.
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